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closing the deal two days before the new hampshire primary. a brand-new cnn poll shows a clear lead for donald trump. >> i'm desperate to get your vote. >> as the former president makes his final pitch to primary voters. >> you have to give a president total immunity. >> can anyone stop him? we'll dive into our new poll next. plus, full-court press. nikki haley turns up the pressure on donald trump. >> we can't have someone else whether we question whether they're mentally fit. >> while he tries to undercut her with support. >> we need donald trump. >> why did he back the former president over his former governor? south carolina senator tim scott joins me exclusively next. and campaign pitch. president biden's political and policy challenges collide on the border and his support for

israel as he hits the campaign trail. >> i've never been more optimistic. >> what case should he make to voters. senator chris coons will be here. hello, i'm dana bash in warning washington where the state of the union is crunching numbers. fresh new insight into the depth of voter enthusiasm for donald trump. as he tries to fend off a challenge by his former u.n. ambassador nikki haley in a state they miss for primary surprises. haley attacked trump for his age. he praised hungary's authoritarian leader victor orbon. >> some people don't like him because he's too strong. it's nice to have a strong man running your country. >> and arguing he deserves

complete presidential immunity. >> you will have -- we thought the rogue caught, the bad apple and perhaps you'll have that also with president but there's nothing you can do about that. you're going to have to give the president, you're going to have to allow a president, any president to have immunity. >> now to be clear, that is not an unusual message from donald trump and our new poll shows he is still deeply popular with many in his party. cnn political director david challian is at the magic wall to break it all down for us. what did we learn? >> this brand-new poll from cnn and the university of new hampshire two days out shows you donald trump with a pretty substantial lead in this new hampshire republican primary. 50% of likely republican primary voters say they're supporting trump to haley's 29% and the poll early january before the

iowa caucuses, a lot of growth for trump from 39% to 50 now. you see growth for haley. 32% to 39%. they're benefitting from some of the candidates. chris christie, a lions share may be going to haley. ramaswamy supporters going to trump. very different coalitions, dana. >> on that note as you showed, it's overall support for donald trump. when you look under the surface of that top line, their support is coming from pretty different places. >> it's really astonishing. you know undeclareds, independents make up a big swath of the primary electorate. roughly half. haley is winning the undeclareds. 58%. she's winning undeclareds to donald trump's 39%. they make up a slightly larger share than independents.

he's winning 67% to 23%. college educated versus noncollege educated. haley winning college grads 58% to 30%. college 55 to 35. college grads only make up 1/3 of the electorate. another slice of this is to look at self-identifying moderates versus conservatives. among moderates haley is winning 71% to 22%. among conservatives, 71% to 17% donald trump wallops haley there. haley's problem is they're only likely three in ten. >> those numbers are stark. they are complete opposite from one another when it comes to haley and trump and moderates and conservatives. >> what do voters think about the three candidates? >> if you look at their overall popularity, favorability. donald trump's favorability, 56%

of likely republican primary voters. 36% unfavorable. that's a net plus 20. i mean, look how much better he is seen by this electorate than haley who's at 36% fav, 40 unfav, minus 4 and desantis lower than that. enthusiasm for donald trump if he's the nominee, 46% of likely republican primary voters would be enthusiastic. only 25% say that of haley. 76% say that of desantis. what are your feelings if donald trump is the nominee among each set of supporters. 89% of trump supporters would be very enthusiastic if trump is the nominee. dana, look here. 23% of haley supporters would be dissatisfied if trump is the nominee. 61% of haley supporters would be

downright angry. we also ask the most important issue, border immigration probably not surprising is the top issue. 29% of republican primary voters say so. 22% say democracy and constitution. nikki haley's winning this. coming from the left perspective versus the right perspective if there is a left and a right to those issues. then you see it goes down here. cost of living, economy, debt. you can add those together and the economy still resonates. >> that democracy number is surprising for a republican voting electorate. it's not just republicans hoor on the ballot on tuesday in nooumpt joe biden is not formally on the ballot. he's running as a write-in candidate as you will explain. how is the race shaping up when it comes to the democrats who are on the ballot in new hampshire? >> yeah. so we took a look here. biden write-in, we say that because the dnc made new hampshire not first. this is not a sanctioned event.

no delegates here for the democrats. biden without being on the ballot is getting 63% of the vote. 10% for dean phillips, 9% for marian williamson. they're making a little bit of advancement since early january. maybe a tick down from the biden write in number, but this is an overwhelmingly favorable electorate to joe biden. if you look here, we asked about favorability ratings here. joe biden is at plus 40. obviously his opponents phillips and williamson, deeply unpopular with likely democratic voters. in terms of democrats and whether or not they think joe biden's putting their best foot forward, have the best chance to win if he's the nominee, only 46% of likely democratic primary voters in new hampshire say that biden gives them a better chance for the nominee. 39% say someone else would give them a better chance. 15% say unsure. less than a majority of

democrats, dana, say biden is their best foot forward here. that is going to be a number of concern for the biden team going forward. >> thank you so much for bringing us all those new data points. appreciate it. we should note that florida governor ron desantis was scheduled to be on our show this morning. yesterday his campaign canceled the interview citing logistical issues citing he's going to new hampshire to campaign. last night in new hampshire donald trump brought on stage a slew of south carolina politicians horsebacking him over haley. >> almost every politician from south carolina is endorsing me. how do you do that when she was the governor? >> it comes on the heels of a major endorsement for donald trump from south carolina and that person is here with me now. south carolina senator tim scott. thank you so much for being here this morning, senator. now you -- >> good morning. >> -- endorsed former president

donald trump on friday even though you were appointed to the senate in the first place by nikki haley who was your governor at the time. she is still very much in this race. why did you endorse donald trump and not nikki haley? >> you know, it comes right down to what does america need for the next president? it would be four more years of donald trump. why do i say that? i say that because i worked with president trump on really important issues impacting american voters and american families. we worked together. i helped write the tax cuts and jobs act in 2017, the largest tax decrease in american history. think about uniting this country. he gave the highest level of funding for historically black colleges and universities in the history of the country. we have the most inclusive economy. 7 million new jobs. the lowest unemployment rates for african americans, hispanics, asians. a 70-year low for women and a 50-year low for the majority

population. that during the trump years. we also didn't have an invasion of ukraine. hamas was not burning, decapitating killing kids and range women in israel. we had a stronger economy, a healthy military and a safer world. by come pair and contrast, the only, the only conclusion is donald trump. >> senator, nikki haley said yesterday in new hampshire that she was disappointed. did you call her beforehand to give her a heads up? have you talked to her since? >> we had texted several times since i got out of the race so we've had a conversation at least once. we've had multiple texts back and forth. here's the question, i'm not asking a question about who's from my home state. i'm not asking a question who would be a good person or better person. i think president donald trump is a strong president, will be a strong president again and will

have the kind of accomplishments that will unite this nation around economic opportunity. >> so just to be clear, you texted after you got out of the race but you didn't give her a heads up before you endorsed her opponent? >> actually, i text her the day before. >> okay. >> i made my announcement. >> got it. okay. senator, i want to play something that you said when you launched your own presidential campaign in may. >> victimhood or victory? >> victory. >> grievance or greatness? >> greatness. >> senator, you ran a very positive, very hopeful campaign, but victimhood and grievance you were describing in your launch speech that we played some of right there sounds like donald trump. did you change your mind? >> dana, listen, we absolutely, positively, unequivocally need an american that's not filled with victims. i'm actually talking about how

joe biden has destroyed our economy and made victims out of people waiting for the government to show up. i'm talking about having a president who's weaponizing the doj against political adversaries. we need lady justice wearing a blindfold. i want america, every single american in every corridor of this nation to have confidence in their doj, not a biden-led doj. i want every child growing up in poverty like i did to have access to quality education. unfortunately, the democrats have sold their soul to the teachers' unions trapping poor black kids into inner cities in failing schools. i want a nation where every child looks into the future and says the american dream works for me. i was that kid, and so when i think about bringing this country together not under grievance but over greatness,

not being victims, but being victorious, i am talking about the future of this nation and politicians who get in the way of that today, that's joe biden. >> you don't see any grievance in donald trump's campaign for president? >> well, here's what i can tell ya. for a person who's seeing the doj weaponized against it, for a person who before he was ever sworn into office, the washington post said they were going to make sure that he is a one-term president, when you look at the challenges that he faced, there's no doubt that he has been aggrieved. the question is what are the american voters looking for? here's what they're looking for. they are looking for a president who represents their best future and not his. that president is not joe biden, it is donald trump. >> yeah. yeah. and we should say that some of what you just said we don't have evidence to back up, but what you did say on friday, senator, is that when you endorsed donald trump, that he will, quote, restore law and order, which is

some of what you're talking about here this morning. >> yes. >> as president he did try to overturn a legitimate election. he called january 6th rioters hostages and promised to pardon them. he is charged with keeping classified documents and obstructing attempts to get them back. and on the campaign now he's arguing that presidents should have total immunity even if they, quote, cross the line. how is that law and order? >> well, he has a legal team that can answer the questions of the legal challenges that he faces, but what i can tell you is that when you look around the cities, when you grow up in poor communities like i did and you watch the crime ravishing your communities, you ask yourself what president has allowed that to happen? it's joe biden. when you have das around the country that says it's no longer a crime to steal $1,000 worth of goods and the stores start closing in san francisco and across the country, you ask

yourself what -- what president allowed that lawless behavior to continue. that's joe biden. you ask yourself, who can restore -- >> senator -- >> -- the law and order in our nation to allow it to go forward, that would be donald trump. >> i understand you're talking about joe biden, but i do want to get your thoughts in a more fullsome way of donald trump because your endorsement was a big deal and is a big deal. i want to take one of the examples i gave. donald trump calls the january 6 rioters hostages. you were at the capitol that day. you said you took off your jacket, you pulled up your sleeves and you were prepared to defend yourself, quote, presumably until i died. would you call the people who are -- >> yes. >> -- now facing prosecution hostages? >> i would say that every single person facing our justice system should have justice done. the facts and the evidence in each individual case matters.

i have confidence that that process will play out. here's what i said also in the book that i wrote. i talked about january 6th because i am one of the few people who was actually there. with the people outside, 99% of the people who showed up were there to exercise their first amendment rights. what i said thoen is what i'll say now. i don't hold those people at harm. i don't hold them responsible for the actions of a few. i do hold the few responsible. >> right. so the few who are -- >> people have to be responsible for themselves. >> so the -- to use your words, the few who are being prosecuted -- >> yes. >> -- going through the justice system, would you call them hostages? >> i believe that our department of justice should continue and allow a jury of their peers to make the decisions. that's america. >> so -- so just to be clear and then i want to move on, you disagree with donald trump calling them hostages sounds

like. >> just for the third time, yes, i believe that we should have confidence in restoring the blindfold to lady justice's eyes. >> okay. senator, donald trump is launching some pretty personal attacks against nikki haley, who i know you've known for a very long time. he suggested she is ineligible to be president, even though she is. she was born in your home state of south carolina. she -- he repeatedly mocked her given first name nimerada even though she has gone by her middle name nikki her whole life. are you comfortable with that rhetoric from the former president? >> i'm watching rhetoric on all sides of the issues facing becoming president. what i mean by that is the rhetoric from joe biden is terrible but it is -- and it's salacious. nikki haley questions whether 70-year-olds should be allowed

to run for president. i think there is so much negativity and toxicity in this aim to becoming president again or for the first time that we should be very clear and look at both sides of the comments made. what i can tell you, the average voter is more interested in their future and their kids than they are the comments being thrown around by political candidates. >> would you rather that the man you endorse not use terms like nimerada seeming to try to make a point to his supporters? >> well, i would like for all politicians to comport themselves in a way that is consistent with the highest office. on the campaign trail people say things and interestingly enough then after the campaign's over everybody unites. what we need in the republican party is to start uniting behind one candidate. that candidate is only going to

be donald trump. so when we're thinking about what's next, it shouldn't be attacks against each other. we should turn our attention to joe biden and to the american people and what they want. they want a better future. they want another american century. they want hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs across the nation. when we start talking about the underlying issues and the principles that under girth america, then we're having a conversation. that won't happen until we get to the general election. that should start right now. >> senator, when you were with donald trump in new hampshire on friday some people in the crowd were chanting vp. the would you like to be donald trump's running mate? >> the only thing i want is four more years of donald trump and a republican majority in the senate, majority in the house and the white house so that poor kids who are today growing up in neighborhoods like i grew up in

have a chance for quality education. i want kids to look to their future and believe that america is their oyster. they can have whatever they want. that's what i really want. if i can help achieve that through my endorsement, by being on the campaign trail in my home state of south carolina for the next four or five weeks and then beyond, that's the goal. if you don't think about yourself but think about the country first, we'll be in good shape. >> that wasn't a no. that door is wide open. fair read? >> well, dana, you can take it any way you want. my goal is to do one thing. it's to do the same thing, make america and americans believe in our future and the way that we do not today. whatever that takes. >> senator tim scott of south carolina, thank you so much for your time this morning. appreciate it. >> dana, happy sunday. >> thank you. >> take care. one candidate who will not be on the ballot in new

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president biden and vice president harris are getting out of town to the key state of virginia for the first campaign trail of the cycle. they'll focus on abortion rights. here with me now is a close confidante of the president, chris coons. he's a co-national chair of the president's re-election campaign. thank you so much for being here. we have a lot to get to. i want to start with what you heard from your colleague in the

senate, tim scott. your reaction.dana, i respect t scott but i was struck by a number of things he said. one is exactly not true. he claimed that the economy was better under former president trump. in fact, the stock market hit an all-time high on friday. we have unemployment below 4% for the longest stretch in 50 years. president biden has presided over the creation of 14 million new private sector jobs and only two american presidents in the last century, donald trump and herbert hoover, left office with fewer americans working than when they started. joe biden has presided over a strong and a robust economy that's great for middle class americans. donald trump did not. >> can i just push back on that a little bit because you brought it up. what you said about the data may not be wrong, but you know better than i do, the way people

feel is how they vote. and despite all of those accomplishments, president biden is having trouble breaking through with voters, particularly working class voters, those that he needs, historically has had as part of his coalition, they're not feeling it. how does the campaign need to change strategy so that they feel it and they don't just hear it and see it on data points? >> well, dana, funny you should mention that. last week consumer confidence took the single greatest jump -- positive jump in 30 years. as inflation has come down, prices have come down and as we're beginning to see the impact in people's pocketbooks of president biden's leadership. for example, insulin out of pocket costs are capped at $35 a month. it used to be hundreds of dollars a month. those of us with family members with diabetes understand how that is a significant step forward for the american public. we're beginning to see the

positive impacts of president biden's real leadership on our economy. >> senator, i want to turn to israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu seems to be saying one thing in public and another thing in private about a two-state solution. he privately told president biden according to a source familiar with their location that he wasn't ruling out a future palestinian state but just yesterday netanyahu tweeted, quote, i will not compromise on full israeli security control over all the territory west of the jordan and this is contrary to a palestinian state. that seems pretty definitive. >> it does, and this wouldn't be the first time that there is some tension between prime minister netanyahu, his personal political goals and aims and the challenges of crafting a positive, peaceful path forward for the israeli and palestinian people. look, dana, this is one of the moments where i'm grateful we have a president with decades of

actual experience, engagement in the region who knows all of the relevant leaders. when i was recently at a conference in europe and had a chance to meet in person with the foreign minister, prime minister of saudi arabia and qatar i heard directly how progress is being made on putting together a path forward for a palestinian state, for recognition between the saudis and the israelis and how despite some of prime minister netanyahu's rhetoric there is a real prospect for regional peace. that happens because of president biden's leadership. >> prime minister netanyahu is still in charge in israel. is he an obstacle to ending the war and finding the peace you're talking about? >> he has a record of years of dividing the palestinian authority in the west bank and weakening it and accepting the leadership of hamas that has had a tragic consequence on

thousands of innocent civilians, 1200 innocent civilians got murdered in israel. this is a moment where the israeli public needs to choose, what is the best path forward. i know it would be a significant step for them to accept the creation of a palestinian step is the right step forward, but many who have long experienced in israel and in the region think the only way to end the constant cycle of violence is to choose the path of peace. >> i want to turn back to the united states and the u.s. border issues and of course immigration. president biden conceded on friday that the southern border is not secure and he said he supports massive changes to u.s. immigration laws. i don't need to tell you how huge a political issue immigration is and polls consistently show that voters overwhelmingly disapprove of how president biden is handling it. i know you're working on an immigration deal. you have been for some time in

the senate. just from a purely political standpoint how important is it for president biden and for his colleagues like you in the senate to get this done? >> dana, it's important for our nation and for us politically that we secure our border. i'll remind you president biden asked for congressional leadership in legislatively addressing our badly broken immigration system. president biden in his supplemental funding request now many months ago asked for $14 billion to hire thousands more border patrol agents, customs and border agents to deport more people who are here but have failed to prove that they have a right to asylum here. president biden has been asking for congressional engagement and leadership. i am optimistic we are very close to finalizing in the coming days a package that will make that possible, and if house republicans refuse to takes it up, to consider it and pass it,

then they will own responsibility for another year in which millions of people suffer the journey of coming to our southern border only to be turned away or ultimately deported. senator chris coons of delaware, i really appreciate your time this morning. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you, dana. on monday our laura coats will interview vice president chairs. you won't want to miss that tomorrow n night at 11 p.m. eastern. up next,t, what will the 20 rarace look lilike two d days s now?w? my panenel l joins me to talk hampshire e and beyondnd. that's's next. to duckduckgo on all your devie

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margins are important. not because of the people we're running against, nikki, i don't even talk about desanctus. whatever happened to him? >> welcome back to "state of the union." those are the closing arguments in new hampshire as we are two days away from votes now. early january you see the difference. donald trump has higher -- i think ramaswamy is out. nikki haley and desantis virtually hasn't moved. >> when i look at this poll i see something persistent. 35% of registered republicans hesitant to go to donald trump. they are currently for nikki haley or ron desantis. i think donald trump is going to win new hampshire and the question's going to be, what does he do in his victory speech on tuesday night? after new hampshire then the job becomes to circle up the entire base. he did a pretty good job of that

in iowa but he's going to be talking to the 35% voting for nikki haley and ron desantis who are republicans. that's what i see. >> what do you see? >> i think the math is going to get really hard. i look at the delegate count. he's very far ahead, double digits, 20 delegates coming out of iowa. the 20 delegates i think up for grabs in new hampshire. if he has a decisive win, he's going to get the majority of the delegates. nevada is going to be a mess because he's doing a caucus. haley is participating in the primary. he controls the party there. he'll likely get the delegates. i think this race is over -- i hate to say bad for tv, but after newspaper i think it's going to be hard for anybody to catch him in the delegate race. if he does, well, enough with independents. he has to -- she's leading. he doesn't have to win them all. he has to just show a bit of -- you know, he has some support.

i think that's his general election argument. >> congresswoman? >> you know, i'm more focused, obviously, on the biden cam pain and the fight for the white house this year, but i do agree the math is going to be really tough. and, you know, this is -- this is on them. it is unfortunate we are now seeing just the full embrace by the republican party of the most extreme igs tendencies that have been, you know, roiling our country and that's what the fight's going to be about heading into november is about preserving our democracy and our freedoms versus maga extremism. >> i guess it's interesting. brad is focused on trump's victory speech. i'm watching how the candidates in the gop race get out of the race. i think chris christie left a mark with his closing speech explaining how a lot of republicans had put their ambition -- ambition ahead of decision making. that really rung true. so what does nikki haley do?

i've just got a comment a bit on how tim scott has closed his race. that interview he conducted with you made me really sad. it was really hard to watch. i think you rarely see a person with his reputation as an optimistic, charismatic leader sully it in the way that he did in that interview where he went down the road of essentially saying, yeah, i agree with trump, that the people who have been prosecuted for their crimes related to january 6th are hostages. >> he defended the racist comment. >> he didn't shut it down. if you want to see where this road is going, someone even like tim scott is embracing the lie that the department of justice has been weaponized against donald trump and his supporters while at the same time completely ignoring the fact that donald trump is openly promising to prosecute people like joe biden, bill barr, mark millie, john kelly.

>> american confidence is at an all time low. i think that's -- >> when did joe biden say that? when did joe biden say that? >> go back and look at it. it's in the wall street journal this weekend. keep up. the real question though is whether or not donald trump can unite the republican base together. he's going to win in new hampshire. after that i think karen's right, that's the end of the road. the rest of the primaries look like iowa's caucus than they do new hampshire's primary. the task ahead of him is to unite the party. that's the question we should be asking. can he do it? >> i think the answer is he can't because you see there are still, as we saw in 2020, there are independents, there are moderate republicans who are not as wimpy as tim scott and say they're not hostages. they're criminals who attacked our own -- let me -- who attacked our capitol. again, what i think you're going to see in the election, do you

want a guy who is all about him or do you want joe biden who actually cares about you and your life and your family? >> let me get congresswoman escobar in here. i just want to say you're talking about a equiquip that h made. there is no evidence he is involved. there are two layers between him and this prosecutions that are going on. >> anybody in the cabinet catches whatever the president says. >> okay. i want to just bring you in it on this notion that they're all talking about. i mean, i know for democrats at this point you're sitting on the sidelines and you're going, okay, but we're going to talk about joe biden in a minute. how -- how do you think that the biden campaign of democrats overall should be pushing back against this? is what they're doing right at this point? because it doesn't look like it's got overwhelming support at this stage of the game. and it is early. >> it is very early.

we've got some months until the november general election. we've got a little bit of time before we learn whether donald trump is the nominee. i think it's pretty inevitable, but you're going to see all of us drawing a very stark contrast between president biden and donald trump. you know, you were talking about the economy earlier with tim scott. if we look back on where we were at the end of donald trump's presidency, we were rationing toilet paper. people were fighting for limited products in grocery stores. we had a president telling the country to inject itself with bleach to fight covid. we saw an historic loss of jobs in our country. we -- we've seen what happens when we have someone like donald trump in office and we're going to be reminding people every step of the way of what's at stake in this election. >> everybody stand by. we've got a lot more to discuss, including more about the new push by the biden/harris

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by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. welcome back to "state of the union." a first look now at a new ad from the biden campaign hoebl to mobilize voters around the issue of abortion. >> i never thought that i would need an abortion for a planned pregnancy, but i did. i learned that the fetus would have a fatal condition and that there was absolutely no chance of survival. in texas you are forced to carry that pregnancy, and that is because of donald trump overturning roe v. wade. >> the panel is back now. i want to start with you, amanda, as a conservative woman who's no fan of donald trump. when you see this kind of message and knowing that this is

going to be a huge, huge push by the biden campaign and all democrats on the ballot as it was in the mid terms, this week is the anniversary of roe v. wade. joe biden/kamala harris, they're going to be campaigning together. how effective is this issue and how concerned should republicans be about it? >> i don't think republicans know how to talk about this issue. i come at this from a pro life perspective. i've been wrong about this issue on the ballot. i thought it was going to be democrats who overplayed it. it turned out after the decision was overturned it was the republicans who overplayed it. in kansas a republican voter saw this as a massive government overreach that was controlling women's lives. i would like to have a fuller discussion about what abortion is and what it is not. what a medical emergency. what is an elective procedure. it's extremely complicated. those issues have never been fully

have never really had to grapple with it. >> that's part of exactly the point, right, that every single woman has a different situation. so, you cannot have government say, here's the one size fits all, this works. it's not going to work for you or the congresswoman or dana or me. we're all different. part of what we're seeing since the overturning of roe v. wade are the harms that we warned about for women. this woman who came forward, so bravely, is one of many woman who are coming forward to share their stories. there was a woman who came forward in the kentucky governor's race, very powerful ad. i think you're going to see more of this. what's at stake is literally our freedom. >> i want to bring in the congresswoman because you are from texas. the woman who was just speaking is from texas. you've been living this and talking about this issue because of what's going on in your state. do you think it will translate in other states? >> i do. i think it is a really profound

moment in time for american women. one in three women in the united states of child bearing age is living under an abortion ban. and that means for single women. that means for married woman who are trying to expand their family. and all of these women are at risk. but the greater risk is if we have a republican white house, if we have a republican-controlled senate, if we have a republican-controlled house of representatives, we are going to see what's happening in texas spread all across the country. >> you're outnumbered here. so, i'm going to give you a bit of an out. just look at it from a purely political point of view. if you look at our poll this morning, specifically the question about whether or not joe biden is the best -- has the best chance of winning as a democratic nominee, he only has 46%. and he's an incumbent president. but if you think about everything that's been said at

the table, knowing how potent the issue was, of abortion was, in 2022, could this issue and others like it override the fact that people aren't maybe as jazzed about joe biden as -- >> well, i think there's lessons to be learned from the terms. democrats spent about $300 million on the issue of abortion. republicans spent less than $3 million. a one-way fight will not work for republicans. they'll have to litigate it. the california law is not either. so, republicans have to be willing to point out where democrats are too extreme on the issue as well because it's going to be incoming that way. i think mostly, though, this race is going to turn on two issues, the economy and the border. that's where joe biden has a problem. your car payment costs 25% more than it did when he became president. the border, we're basically the state of kansas every year in illegal immigrants and asylum

seekers. >> okay. everybody, we're out of time. i'm sure we'll be back to you soon. thank you so much for coming on. could new hampshire pull off a surprise on tuesday? we'll be right back.

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